Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:54:50 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Brake work pictures
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all right.
very important it slides smoothly on the guide pins of course.
to push back the piston on those.......I use a giant pliers , on the
caliper, with the caliper 'floating' ............like brake hose still
attached, but caliper not bolted down.
my comments in my other post still apply , except where it's about the two
piston design.
I like to put the teeny-tiniest amount of copper based anti-seize on the
edge of the pads......
where they slide and rub in the caliper.
I use that same stuff fairly generously on the caliper pins.
I always, as Jim suggested,......put 'Disc Brake Quiet' on the back of the
pads
I at least check front wheel bearing play or looseness.
if those have worn, and there's some play .........like the edge of the
brake disc can be moved ( 'tilted' ) some .....
I can't see how that can help brake performance or brake life. So wheel
bearings have to be at least half-right.
another tip .......
brake pads need to be broken in some.
I would suggest using them 'medium' during the first few hundred miles.
that's not excessive hard braking, not lots and lots of very, very light
braking.
it's using them 'a little more than usual' a few times now and then.
and.....since excessive light braking contributes to brake squeal, I tell
everyone to use the brakes once in a while, to about 60 % of their ability
......
maybe 70 % ........in other words, 'work 'em a little once in a while'.
Keeps them working better, and less of a tendency for squealing to
developed.
the really correct way to replace pads is .....
new pads, turned or replaced discs, new brake fluid .
If only pads are installed on used discs....
if that works, fine, And it often does.
but when it doesn't ............and you know you should have turned or
replaced the discs with the new pads in the first place...
when you get the new discs, only run them with new pads. Those other pads
you got two week out of ......can't use 'em . Not if you want really good
brake performance.
lately I have started using PBR Low metallic front brake pads.
on my first set ( on used discs ) they worked extra, extra good for a
while..........like really slow down hard with authority ......
then that affect went away after a while and they feel more 'normal'
.......that's on my 85 Weekender with two piston early type calipers.
Now I'm going to try them on my 85 Adventurewagon that's for sale , see how
that goes.
my 'normal pad' is PBR Deluxe. ( aka Repco Deluxe ) .............I've
installed hundreds of sets of those over the years.
have fun and do meticulous work !
Scott
www.turbovans.com
Scott
www.turbovans
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Brake work pictures
> The van is an 88 GL. I've got to replace the guide pins and the boots.
>
> John
>
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>> or, I was gonna say ......
>> the Bentley Manual isn't of sufficient help ?
>>
>> also .......there are more than one version of disc brakes on a vanagon
>> .....
>> so you might say what year.
>> the early type is very straightforward, the 86 and later a little more
>> involved.
>> Scott
>> www.turbovans.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 3:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: Brake work pictures
>>
>>
>> It's pretty easy. I don't think I have any pictures, but what do you
>> need to know?
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:38 PM, John Rodgers<inua@charter.net> wrote:
>>> Would someone please point me to some web pictures of Vanagon Disc
>>> Brake Repair?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John Rodgers
>>> 88 GL Driver
>>>
>>
>>
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