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Date:         Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:30:53 -0700
Reply-To:     Paul <wognacious@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Paul <wognacious@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: camper conversion other than Volkswagen
Comments: To: Troy <colorworks@gci.net>
In-Reply-To:  <524797FBDFE54F7EA2D9C28411B5C875@troyb5bff49d63>
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You're on the wrong list. This place is for people who have Vanagons and want to share Vanagon experiences, good and or bad, with each other. I come to this place to be with my kind. I don't want to be led into temptation with talk about other stuff out there you Judas. Go away, sell your Vanagon and submit youself to the lifestlye of the "RV" people. Buy some bright colored plaid polyester pants that go up to your armpits, let your nose and ear hair grow out and toss out that fake grass stuff to put your lawn chair on and mumble about those people in the VW bus type thing parked next to you and the funny smelling cigaretts some of us smoke. But don't come here to talk about whatever it is that you were talking about that pissed me off on a Fryday night on the "VANAGON" list. just venting but some of it was real, Paul Rogers proud owner of a 85 WWW

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Troy <colorworks@gci.net> wrote:

> I have read many times that there are no replacements for our beloved > vanagon. I largely agree. I was looking at the T5, aka "CALIFORNIA", and in > the comments one person mentioned how lucky we are in the US to have > Roadtrek's. I really had never heard of Roadtrek, but a quick Google search > revealed all kinds of information. This is basically a small class B. > motorhome, er van conversion. These are built on either a Dodge 2500 > chassis, or the newer ones are on a Chevy 3500 chassis. They are 17 feet > long (smallest) and about a foot wider than a vanagon. > > They had a 3 Cu.³ refrigerator (3 way), hot water heater, furnace, > motorized fan in skylight, a toilet, indoor shower, tons of storage, 26 > gallon freshwater tank, graywater tank, black water tank, 8 pound propane > capacity, and a generator which runs an air conditioner and microwave > (yuck), but I may change my mind when it was 100° outside;) auxiliary > battery, swivel seats, airbags, antilock brakes, and well a bunch of other > things. They kind of remind me of an adventure wagon in some ways for > height, but are a bit wider. You would need a 9 foot garage door to put > them inside, as I think they are about 8 feet tall. Surprisingly, they get > close to 20 miles to the gallon. Engine is a 318 V8. > > A brand-new one would set you back probably $85,000, but there are some > very nice low mileage ones at under 30K and higher mileage ones at about > 15K. Seems like all the complaints that we talk about with our westy are > addressed in one of these. Yes, there are drawbacks too. About 9 inches of > ground clearance versus about 11 for a vanagon, longer wheelbase, but still > van size. The newer ones have limited slip differentials and > four-wheel-drive options. Motorized seats, leather interiors, etc. > > I have only seen one of these in person and liked the layout. Does anyone > have any comments good or bad about these? I know virtually nothing about > them other than what's been mentioned above. An alternative to a westy? or > junk? > > Troy


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