Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:03:53 -0700
Reply-To: Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
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From: Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
Subject: Re: Waterfront campsites for kayak on Vancouver island and Bella
Coola, British Columbia?
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Arrived in Vancouver!
Thanks Scott for the warning. There's luckily no leaking of Diesel on the timing belt now. There's a slight seep of air in through the injection pump seal. On average I have to crank two to three revolutions to get started. (Where before it would start on the first compression stroke)
The note of drops of Diesel out was only when I tested with a slight overpressure on the pump input line. Unfortunately the drops didn't seep down the block, but out on the axle and timing pulley so would likely get on the timing belt sooner or later, and splash up all inside the timing belt cover. I have a low pressure fuel pump with me, but didn't install it due to this risk.
Martin (and 82 Diesel Westy "Poppie" now 1400km into the 3500km round trip.)
--- On Sun, 7/3/11, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
> Subject: Re: Waterfront campsites for kayak on Vancouver island and Bella Coola, British Columbia?
> To: "Poppie Jagersand" <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>, vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Received: Sunday, July 3, 2011, 3:33 PM
> hi..sounds like an awesome trip !
>
> and ...re
> "the drop of diesel that then leaks out on the injection
> pump pulley and timing belt is worse than a couple of extra
> turns on the starter."
>
> if you are getting diesel fuel onto your timing belt..
> or if it is coming from the main shaft ( and I am not a
> internal injection pump expert, but I am a vanagon and
> diesel vanagon expert/whatever, for sure. ) ..
> first...fuel on the belt can be serious, even fatal.
> second..
> must worse ...if the mainshaft bushing is worn, it can
> cause timing belt to track off center..
> which can wear through the timing belt if it rubs on
> something long enough.
>
> in other words..
> the Injection Pump being weak can blow up the engine.
> also ..
> on pre-chamber VW diesels, like AAZ's ..the entire fuel
> system has to be perfect. .
> I can show you serverely damaged heads from bad injector
> spray pattern.
> there is very little margin for anything to be less than
> perfect.
>
> things can go a long time with totally failing ..but *the
> fuel system itself, and the injectors and injection pump*
> can do major and serious damage to the engine , if allowed
> to operate in a poor condition long enough.
> I should have the pictures of the erroded and blown parts
> on my webiste.
>
> I really hope people will start to understand that VW
> pre-chamber diesel engines are not 'toyota tough' and 'will
> run forever' and notions like that.
>
> they will run for a good while..
> but they are very capable of tearing themselves up also.
> so 'be careful' let's say.
>
> fuel on the timing belt ...
> that is hyper scary on this type of engine !!!
> usually it runs down the block and out the bottom of the
> lowe t-belt cover and doesn't seem to get the belt too
> much.
> there is ZERO margine for anything about the timing belt to
> be less than 100 % perfect.
> If it gets off in any way for an instant, your cylinder
> head is junk instantly usually.
>
> I hope your situation is nothing as dire as any of this.
>
> and ..what comes out the tailpipe is a deadly poison, so
> don't let your tow year old near it.
>
> Iv'e been to Bella Colla from inland ...awesome
> drive. Tweesmere Park ..
> might be some kayaking on a large lake there . Never got to
> explore that park, but I have been to Bella Coola where I
> bought my copy of Bear Attacks in North America. Great
> interesting book if you apprecaite that sort of thing.
> Been to Prince Rupert a few times too.
>
> leaking fuel injection pumps are one of the big
> disadvantages of diesel engines.
> Can't even happen in an electronic fuel injection gas
> engine like a waterboxer.
>
> Isn't that funny ..
> fuel leaks in vw diesel engines are common ..
> and pretty rare in gas vanagon engines , though it can
> happen, but it's not an entire injection pump rebuild to fix
> them either, as it often is in vw disels.
>
> I hope your trip goes super well.
> scott
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Poppie Jagersand"
> <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 8:35 AM
> Subject: Waterfront campsites for kayak on Vancouver island
> and Bella Coola, British Columbia?
>
>
> > The Westy 1.9TD is finally in decent order. Changed
> alternator, belts, started, filters etc. Still has a small
> air leak at injection pump input shaft, so takes a few turn
> of cranking if she has been sitting overnight. I'm bringing
> a 12V in-line fuel pump I can install at the tank to prime
> it in the mornings, but thought the drop of diesel that then
> leaks out on the injection pump pulley and timing belt is
> worse than a couple of extra turns on the starter.
> >
> > Today we start our trip. Wife has some meetings in
> Burnaby next week so will stay in a nearby campground with
> my kid the first days. Anmore camplands in Coquitlam seemed
> like a good compromise between close to Burnaby and quiet
> setting. Will have WiFi there to check email.
> >
> > Then next weekend we go to Vancouver Island for a week
> of vacation. We plan to drive north along the island and
> take the ferry from Port Hardy to Bella Coola.
> >
> > We bring a folbot greenland kayak with us, and I would
> love some advice for where to camp and take kayak day trips
> with my 2 year old. It would be ideal if we can camp and
> launch from the campsite. (Having the 2year old running
> around regular boat launches with trucks and trailers when I
> prepare the kayak is not so good..)
> >
> > So if anyone has tips for quiet launch spots on
> Vancouver island, ideally campapble, please let me know.
> >
> > The ferry between Port Hardy and Bella Coola sometimes
> stops in a few places on the way. Any of these worth taking
> a stopover at?
> >
> > From Bella Coola we drive back towards Alberta, first
> on the very rural road east (ranch country?), then south via
> rte 97 (where I understand there are some gold rush historic
> sites) and west on rte 1 through Revelstroke etc.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Martin
> >
> > Complete route is:
> > http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=+Edmonton,+AB&daddr=52.744751,-119.101099+to:burnaby,+bc+to:Port+Hardy,+British+Columbia+to:Bella+Coola,+British+Columbia+to:51.124213,-115.839844+to:Edmonton,+AB&hl=en&geocode=FQ_SMAMd_J47-SkneNnGiSGgUzFpFg44pwZXKQ%3BFS_SJAMdVanm-A%3BFWV67wIdnJGr-Clzg5whqHeGVDFpsVKHc3IK3Q%3BFbX3BQMdS51m-CmL7UkaLHxkVDEIndkGssZotg%3BFZ8lHwMdsMFx-ClPv6twd3l6VDG_AIQFSgNavQ%3B%3BFYwCMQMd7EU8-Skj_96ARSKgUzFdFfZKDKAfQQ&gl=ca&mra=dpe&mrsp=5&sz=5&via=5&vps=1&sll=52.908902,-117.729492&sspn=12.208181,27.905273&ie=UTF8
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