Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 17:41:29 -0700
Reply-To: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
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From: David McNeely <davmcneely40@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Interesting MPG numbers
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I try not to exceed 60 mph on the highway, although if I am pushed by other
traffic, as on an interstate (avoid them when possible) with heavy traffic,
or on a two lane and no options, I'll keep up to avoid being run over. But
I'll find another route if I can, rather than hit the higher speeds.
Slower is just better. Once, driving down to near Tampico, I was following
a colleague who made sure to AT LEAST keep up, and traffic was heavy, and
me driving on a Mexican highway for the first time ever. This was quite a
few years ago. So, I was a nervous wreck all the way down. Returning, a
couple of weeks later, I just told my buddy that if he was ok with it, we
would not try to stay together, I'd see him at rests or when we got home.
I drove a comfortable pace the rest of the way, and felt ever so much
better. mcneely
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 3:40 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Your tire size probably makes your speedo spot on. On my 91 I’m running
> 225/55-17. Speedo under reads by ~3mph. You may also drive slower than me.
> When doing the NY to Florida runs I keep up with traffic, 65-75 as
> conditions permit. The oil coolers may also hurt a little keeping the oil
> pressure up. The 91 also has a trans oil cooler.
>
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>
> Dennis
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> *From:* David McNeely [mailto:davmcneely40@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:32 PM
> *To:* Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> *Subject:* Re: Interesting MPG numbers
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> For what it's worth, my 1991 Volkswagen Vanagon GL Campmobile generally
> gets over 20, and sometimes as high as 23 mpg. It has an original
> Waterboxer 2.1 engine with 180k miles, manual transmission. Tires are
> Vredestein All Weather 195R14. I don't think the very slight oversize is
> enough to make the under rotation enough to cause a substantial error,
> though of course there would be some.
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> mcneely
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> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 3:25 PM Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> As part of the data set are all these vans using the same
> transmissions-tire sizes?
> Of all the Vanagons I've owned the 1.9L with 4 speed, no AC or power
> steering was the best for fuel economy. Indicated 21 on trips was normal.
> Adding AC took a hit when used and even adding power steering knocked it
> down dome. Moving from that to the Syncro camper was a wakeup call, 16-17
> was good. 15 on a trip with the AC. I now have a 91 auto tin top and it too
> is in the 16-17 range. Except for heads @168K and an exhaust valve with
> rings at 248K this is also an original engine.
>
> For subie conversions without gearing changes the 2.2L is the best bet.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Koerner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:33 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Interesting MPG numbers
>
> I had recently posted this on the "subaruvanagon" list, but also thought
> this info might be worthwhile to VanagonList people, especially those
> considering a Subie swap. Just another data point. That is all. Read the
> thread.
>
> Rich
> San Diego
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: RICHARD KOERNER <
> rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>To: "subaruvanagon@groups.io" <
> subaruvanagon@groups.io>; "subaruvanagon@groups.io" <
> subaruvanagon@groups.io>Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 8:41:55 AM
> PDTSubject: Re: [SubaruVanagon] Interesting MPG numbers
> Yes Jon, that is exactly right. Normally in the USA, my Subie 2.2 gets
> around 22 MPG on roadtrips. Gasoline in Baja currently costs around 19
> Pesos per liter, or $3.78/gallon. We all covered the same distance between
> filling our tanks, around 190 miles. So, basically my Subie 2.2 got 22.8
> MPG, the Subie 2.5 got 19.5 MPG, and the 2.1 Waterboxer got 17.1 MPG.
> Approximately....I'm going on memory for the miles driven, and also the
> price of gas in Mexico (it was cheaper closer to the border, like around 16
> Pesos per liter). We were all driving around 58 to 60 MPH. No wind.
> Mixture of flats and hills.
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 8:02:54 AM PDT, Jon Walhberg via
> Groups.Io <jonwalhberg=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> So trying to understand this; you guys all started with a full tank and
> stopped to fill up again? The 2.2 used less gas, so it only costed $600
> pesos to fill and the other vans used more, costing more to fill? Is that
> right?
>
> On Mar 23, 2020, at 4:58 PM, RICHARD KOERNER <rjkinpb@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
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>
> Just got back from a week long excursion to Baja. With 4 other
> Vanagons. At one point after a fairly long stretch, we gassed up at the
> local Pemex gas station and compared our numbers. Kinda interesting.
> Remember....same terrain and speed for all of us after about a 200 mile
> stretch.
> Me: Subie 2.2 with 60K miles; Tintop with homebuilt camping interior, so
> sorta lightweight, 1 occupant. Fillup cost: 600 PesosDave: Subie 2.5
> with unknown miles; full Westy, a plastic box on top, 2 occupants.
> Fillup cost: 700 PesosAnother guy: 2.1 Waterboxer with probably 200K
> miles, Tintop, but 2 plastic kayaks on top, 1 occupant. Fillup cost: 800
> Pesos I just thought you guys might find this informative.
> Rich
> San Diego
>
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