Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1999 21:00:36 -0500
Reply-To:     jhlauterbach <jhlauterbach@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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From:         jhlauterbach <jhlauterbach@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject:      Re: old timers gone...
Comments: To: Michael Sullivan <sullivan@OPENMARKET.COM>
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I was thinking the same thing the other morning on the way to work.  I have had more than my share of the "flashing LED disease" and have developed some interesting ways of getting the air out of the cooling system w/o jacking up the front end and following the Bentley procedure.

John Lauterbach
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Michael Sullivan <sullivan@OPENMARKET.COM>
    To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
    Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 8:01 AM
    Subject: Re: old timers gone...
    
    
    Dear List,
    
    The solution for a more managable list (and thereby obtain more civility) is to get a robust FAQ up and running so that the sheer volume of frustratingly oft-repeated questions (such as "what tires do I buy") can be answered without taking up the important social bandwidth of the list. Much of the frustration is with the VOLUME of mail, not necessarily its content.
    
    In order to do this, we need those who are wise in the way of the Vanagon to invest the time to put it down in writing so that others can benefit. Unfortunately, those who are "in the know" seem to be leaving at quite a fast rate!
    
    I am offering to edit one section of the FAQ, be it brakes, wheels, tires, paint, whatever -- however, we need a group of other dedicated "editors".
    Who's gonna put up?
    
    Cheers,
    MJS
    
    
    
    At 07:27 PM 1/21/99 -0800, Steven X. Schwenk wrote:
    >What a shame to see several list legends leave, as they have over the
    >last 6 months or so. I may be wrong, but this has become a pretty
    >hostile place. Some of the personal attacks are outrageous. (I am
    >guilty, too, at least when it comes to the battle over
    >commericialization and trashing vendors, i.e. commercial entities, not
    >individuals.) Some people seem to think that debating means attacking,
    >insulting and trashing the person on the otherside of the issue. There
    >seems to be little room for honest debate of even technical issues, let
    >alone list issues.
    >
    >I sure will miss tim's wit and wisdom, as i do g.m.bulley's and the
    >others who have gone...and the weekly statz, too. Hopefully the new
    >syncro list will take off and offer the opportunity for something
    >better. Not so much noise and discord and attacks and fighting and
    >commercialization.
    >
    >adieu, tim...
    >
    >steve
    >
    
    Michael J. Sullivan
    Director of Catalog Design
    Open Market, Inc.
    
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